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This crazy war on terror...

Mon Mar 6, 2006, 8:10 PM
J O U R N A L

:pissedoff:

I'm just floored by a couple of Canadian politicians arguing about whether or not to hold parliamentary discussions concerning our military's new role as lead-force in Afghanistan.  One guy has the nerve to still use the word 'peacekeeping'..  PEACEKEEPING MY ASS!

It's a full fledge war zone again over there with the Taliban on the offensive.. just yesterday one of our soldier/correspondant types was sitting at a meeting with some town elders when a flipped out fanatic stuck an axe in the side of his head.. our soldiers are dying at an alarming rate over there and this jaggoff has the nerve to use the word 'peacekeeping'!

Doesn't ANYONE remember what the Afghans did to the Russians??  This is not even a war ..this war on terrorism.  Its an undefined mess is what it is.  And yes..I'll get political here.. cause I'm damn angry..

The leaders of the western world are out of thier minds if they think they'll ever make hard-core Islamic states into perfect little democratic countries where everyone has a house, a good job, and drives a Volkswagen.  It's just not realistic.  So if that isn't the goal..what is?

Can someone answer this question?  How is this war on terrorism won?  ..When is it declared OVER?..  or won? ..or lost?  Won't there always be people left who hate the capitalist world?  Aren't we making two 'enemies' whenever one is killed?

Here's both sides of the coin as seen from my western-world limited perspective:

THEORY #1 : Leave the middle east alone.. swallow the over-inflated capitalist pride and stop making war in foreign countries.. stop giving anyone a reason to hate having a foreign policy shoved down thier throat.  Abandon ALL interests (political, ideological, and economical) in the Middle East, pull the troops out, and admit defeat..

pros: western-world soldiers will go home to thier families ...thousands of lives will immediately be spared.  'terrorism' goes away because it is no longer necessary.

cons: Saddam-like regimes will flourish again.. the Taliban comes back to power.  Human rights will be trampled again ... price of oil sky-rockets.  Iran gets the Bomb.  Isreal gets invaded or anihilated..fights back and takes a few neighbors into total destruction with them.

THEORY #2 : Stay the coarse.  Fight until every western-world-hater is dead, whether it takes 100 years or not.  Fight the propoganda war until there are overwhelmingly more supporters of democracy than Islamic law or totalitarianism and every country in the world has conformed to the western world notion of human rights, equality and freedom for all.

pros: there is a small chance that eventually (and very eventually) all countries are democratic, human rights are restored, and there are no more rogue-states with WMD's.

cons: Millions will die in battle.  Free countries will continue to live in fear of terror attacks for years to come.  Fundemental Islamic doctrine will become diluted as it mixes with the rules of democracy. Trillions of dollars will be spent on the war efforts as opposed to being spent on worthy causes.

Do you see how damn confusing this whole thing is?  Answers are not entirely clear any more.  It may have gone too far to just pull out.  That makes George Bush right! uggh.. the very thought makes my toenails curl!

I'd love to hear some opinions on this.. especially from my Muslim friends.

love y'all

Skinner


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:iconwb-skinner:
sometimes I wish the situation were that clear-cut :) ...thanks for sharing your opinion though..
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:iconsleekfur:
It seriously irks me that we feel the need to impose our beliefs on everyone in the world. Who says democracy is the best government? We do, but what do we know, really? I wish we could just swallow our pride and get out of there. It's stupid to think that we can convert EVERYONE over to our beliefs with this "war." Even if it does take 100+ years, like you said, the ideas of other governments would still exist; we cannot destroy ideas. We can destroy the things that represent those ideas, but we can never destroy the ideas themselves. We will never get rid of this problem, so we should stop now before any more lives are unnecessarily lost.
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:iconwb-skinner:
unfortunately if we were to pull out of the area now, things would get much worse... its just gone too far :no:

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts Brianna...
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:iconsandcastles01:
smiles, your still wonderful and have SO much energy

could i steal just a little of it:) please hehe

hello and i agree, there is no easy solutions for the so called "war on terror"

so much meddling has gone on in many of those countries that i think the hatred some have for the westerners is so deeply inbed/grown they will never forgive

especially when many believe in an eye for an eye

i guess if we are to say yes we need to consider questions such as;

Do we need to sacrifice many so that the future has some hope of being free and just for all?

If one withdraws and allows countries to be run with dictators will multinational companies of the western world be forbidden to deal with those countries once again, like they were with the united nation sanctions against Iraq, and what will happen to those who flaut those rulings in the pursuit of profits...(which is what an australian wheat company did)

If one withdraws now, will you take those who don't want the freedoms they have been tasting taken away so they too can have a chance at a life like that of which we are priveldged in having

you could think of more things so you have pages full of questions

i dont think there will ever be a perfect world

one man's freedom fight IS another's terrorist

what one sees as fair and just to them isnt necessarily fair and just to another even in countries that are so called civilised ones

anyway :hug:
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:iconwb-skinner:
thanks for sharing your thoughts Sandie.. I enjoyed the read.. you make alot of sense :nod:
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:iconlovittgirl:
`LovittGirl Mar 7, 2006  Hobbyist Photographer
It all just makes me sad and confused...
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:iconwb-skinner:
hey schweets! ...me too... btw ..Winter-man wants to know when you'll drive yourself up to winterland here so's he can shoot ya!
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:iconlovittgirl:
`LovittGirl Mar 7, 2006  Hobbyist Photographer
:D :boogie: :dance:

Note me some details... I'll note you back with some from my side.
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:iconko777:
~KO777 Mar 7, 2006   Photographer
It does seem endless, but the decision has been made.
No matter if it was right or wrong, things can't be left unhandled

It's hard to look at it objectively from your point of view when I'm living in Israel
You presented the two most extremes options for the western world, of course it will be hard to choose, I understand your idea of doing so.
But i do know that we can't let those islamic countries flourish terror and do what ever they want. We need to stop them for our/your OWN sake.
I feel that the question that should be answered is how much the western world or any other country should interfere in the matters of other countries.
Whether its to put an end to terror, to mediate at agreements and discussions between other countries, or help the helpless in Africa.
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:iconwb-skinner:
good thoughts all of them.. and its good to hear those of someone over there in the heart of the issue ..thanks for your input.
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